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Anyone know where I can get one, or at least how to MAKE one? I'd hate to use just an old tv potentiometer. I need something more safer.
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A transformer works only with AC not DC. A potentiometer with an inline fuse (since with the power of a car battery you could weld your train to the track) is actually a fair solution. Otherwise, you need a variable DC regulator. If you feel electronically inclined search for an LM317 data sheet/application note whcih have a 3-8V example. Otherwise I'd suggest you check out a Snail Controller. The data sheet I have says it will accept a 12V DC input.
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My biggest concern is the power that a car battery brings. At 1.2-1.5KW of purge power, a short circuit could literally melt track and wiring and cause locos to burst into flames. Of course it has the capacity to power 5-8 thousand of you favorite engines.
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Thanks for the replies though, I'll definitely check out all the options you all gave me.
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Or.... if you are trying to turn your precious $1500 Challenger into a lump of molten slag metal!
The last time you jumped a car.. did you feel your jumper cables get warm, or even hot? That's because there's too much current flowing. (fyi.. if that does happen, you need thicker jumper cables) Apply that amount of current to your train layout (even without a short) and you'll likely get the rails to the point where they'll glow this nice bright orange color, right before your plastic roadbed track melts into oblivion.
Transformers and batteries do NOT work together. At best, you'd have to build a circuit to convert the DC to AC, then go thru the transformer and re-convert from AC to DC. It's just not worth the troule.
Even using a potentiometer or a voltage regulator will not improve things in this case. There's just TOO MUCH CURRENT. If you applied the car battery to a standard 7809 voltage regulator, you're going to hear a crisp little "pop", see a tiny cloud of smoke.. and then you'd be buying a new one.
Use the 9v. Buy rechargables if you're worried about the planet or running for a long time inexpensively.
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You mentioned running the train from a car battery, but you didn't mention if this battery would still be in the car. If the battery is not in a car, get yourself a regular old Marklin transformer off eBay. I recently saw an old blue one go for $20.00 including shipping. While you're on Ebay, shop around for a cheap "12V DC Car to 110V AC Power Inverter Converter" which one normally connects via hardwiring to the battery or into the cars electrical system. It should be around $25.00-$30.00. Hook up the Inverter to the battery and plug the transformer into the inverter. Of course, this means eventually you'll also need to charge the battery, so tack on another $30.00 for a battery charger.
If, on the other hand, you want to run the train while inside your car, you can buy an Inverter that plugs into your cigarette lighter and plug the transformer into that.
Does anyone see a problem doing it either of these ways?
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store.qkits.com/moreinfo.cfm/FK807
www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/powe/ck402.htm
www.hobbytron.com/Regulated-Power-Supply3.html
www.electrokits.com/electronics/power-supplies/86.htm
This will get you from 12v to 9 or 6:
store.qkits.com/moreinfo.cfm/FK805
As Zscratchman Joe suggests, in a car, you can use a cigarette adapter to connect to this variable supply or, a 'lantern' (torch) battery.
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I took an unused cell phone charger that plugs into the cigarette lighter & clipped off the plug.
I stripped the positive & negative wires on the charger.
I then bought from off of eBay the following LM2596 DC-DC Step Down CC-CV Adjustable Power Supply Module (usable from 1.5 volts all the way to 35 volts-if you want it-
You can get them here: www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/560349330-LM2596-DC-DC-Step-Down-CC-CV-Adjustable-Power-Supply-Module-Output-DC-1-5V-35V-wholesalers.html
The output voltage is adjusted by turning the small brass screw (you'll need an eyeglasses screwdriver to adjust).
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I got it off eBay for $2.15, with free shipping!!!
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Consider a Medvend hand controller or something similar using a 9v battery or small Rokuhan Controller using 8 x AAA batteries, you are less likely to burn or smoke an engine.
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My locomotives work fine with the LM2596 DC-DC Step Down CC-CV Adjustable Power Supply Module & cell phone charger while hooked into the cigarette lighter.
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